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S.Africa: White Woman Tortured, Sexually Assaulted & Murdered in broad daylight

Date Posted: Thursday 18-Oct-2007

[This is another absolutely horrific murder by a black gang of armed men. It appears as if some black workers from a township assisted in catching the thieves.

One thing I must explain about Africa is that VERY OFTEN the local blacks in the area actually know who the criminal is. Blacks talk a lot, and many thieves aren't as secretive as you might think. The security company Amapogo operates on this principle in fact. Not only can they catch the criminals with a day or two, but they can actualy RETURN YOUR STOLEN GOODS FOR YOU. Crime in Africa is not a big mystery actually. So when it does become a mystery... GET SUSPICIOUS - because then someone "up there" is hiding the details.

The word "voertsek" (voetsek actually), means, "Bugger off". Jan]

A woman was killed in broad daylight in Lynnwood Manor on Tuesday after she stumbled on a gang of armed men ransacking her house.

Cathy Odendaal was apparently tortured, sexually assaulted and then murdered by the four-man gang who have been terrorising the suburb.

But in an unusual mobilisation of forces on Tuesday night, members of the community, along with a group of construction workers from Mamelodi, rallied together to hunt down the alleged culprits.

Two men who were found in possession of an unlicensed handgun and jewellery belonging to Odendaal were arrested - one of them, who was wearing a Springbok jersey, was seriously hurt after being subdued by the workers.

'If only we could have done something to save her'
The men broke into the Farnham Street home while Odendaal's domestic worker Francia Majadibodu was taking a shower.

Odendaal was out shopping at the time.

The attack comes less than 72 hours after a gang of robbers shot and critically injured the three-year-old daughter of Musa Ebrahim's domestic worker in an attack on his home - also in Farnham Street.

Odendaal is believed to have been attacked by her killers, who were armed with an assortment of weapons, including a screwdriver, when she surprised them as they were ransacking her home.

The men are believed to have tortured her before sexually assaulting her.

Neighbours and police said it seemed as if the attackers were fleeing through the garden when Odendaal, who had been left for dead, managed to raise the alarm.

This apparently prompted her attackers to return.

It seems they then killed Odendaal. Police at the scene could not say whether she had been shot or stabbed.

Majadibodu discovered Odendaal's body lying sprawled in a outside room near the kitchen.

Screaming for help, she stopped a passing Lynnwood Ridge Community Policing Forum member who raised the alarm.

Residents drove through Lynnwood Manor looking for the suspects. One of the alleged attackers was caught climbing over another Farnham Street house garden wall while the second was caught when the construction workers spotted him trying to rob another woman at a bus stop.

Construction worker Vusi Sithole, who was driving with his brother Johannes and neighbour Colbert Novela, said that as they drove towards Mamelodi they spotted a man holding a woman around the throat. He was wearing a Springbok jersey.

"As we stopped he screamed at us to 'voertsek' and then ran off."

Chasing after him, the three escaped with their lives after the man, who had hidden behind a clump of bushes in Cedar Street, leapt at their truck, pushed a gun into the driving compartment and opened fire.

Novela had a spade with him and managed to push the spade against the gun, deflecting the bullet.

The three men pushing the man from the truck and attacked him with the spade and a rock, overpowering him before stopping a passing police patrol.

Vusi Sithole said that when the man attacked them and began shooting he thought he was going to die.

"If it had not been for Colbert we would be dead," he said.

Sithole burst into tears on hearing of Odendaal's murder.

"If only we could have done something to save her. I wish we could have caught the man before he killed that lady," he said.

Police spokesperson Inspector Paul Ramaloko confirmed that Odendaal had apparently been tortured before being murdered

He said that police were also investigating whether Odendaal had been raped or sexually assaulted.

"Two men have been arrested and charged with murder, armed robbery and possession of unlicensed firearms and ammunition. They will appear in court soon," he said.

He appealed to anyone who had information on the whereabouts of the other two suspects to contact Crime Stop on 08600 10111.



    • Source Url: http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?art_id=vn20071017061630495C448005

      Posted By: Jan
      AfricanCrisis Webmaster
      Author of: Government by Deception

      “Political language is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind.”
      (George Orwell)


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      Readers' Comments

      Date Posted: Wednesday 09-Jun-2010
      @Kunta Kinte

      Careful, you may find yourself before the ICC in The Hague alongside Malema & other ANC leaders http://www.africancrisis.co.za/Article.php?ID...(Jan, did you get this genocidal racist's email/IP?)

      Fortunately for you Kunta, your name isn't spelt with a 'C'. However, it doesn't sound like a South African name, so you should be aware of the threats of xenophobic attacks that black South Africans are openly making against black people from other countries. Didn't you hear? "Make sure you're packed by July 12"... Karma is a bitch.

      Anonymous


      Date Posted: Wednesday 09-Jun-2010
      @Kunta kinte,
      Your comment shows that some Moron wrote it, disregard for blacks what a Joke? perhaps we should stop aiding Blacks and let them DIE of whatever they inflict upon themselves. You support the thugs on their Evil Quests means Fokol because you do that any way, because its against Whites. Problem is the more your Brothrs practice thugery or worse the better they become at it and then its your turn then Mflker.

      Nomad


      Date Posted: Wednesday 09-Jun-2010
      @ Kunta Kinte

      And what culture would that be?

      Killing and raping babies are part of the African culture?

      Oops, I forgot, it is!

      Lars Pluss
      San Francisco CA
      USA


      Date Posted: Tuesday 08-Jun-2010
      @SA Reader
      Please ask your Buddy John Smith for the source of Ordinary German Citizens were complicit to the Silent Holocast before Himmler implemented the death Camps.

      Nomad


      Date Posted: Tuesday 08-Jun-2010
      In a nutshell, as long as white people show a blatant disregard for Africans and their culture we'll continue to support the thugs slaughtering your race. We don't care if you don't like it - just stop ridiculing it and being racist. Failure to do so will result in the extermination of the racist elements of your minority group.

      Kunta Kinte
      JHB
      S.A.


      Date Posted: Sunday 06-Jun-2010
      LoveNGrace, your nickname doesn't suit you or your comment ("When Blacks were murdered, where your tears. I could care less...") and you clearly don't have a clue about SA. The previous government also murdered white people and Apartheid was ended through a referendum in which WHITES VOTED YES. WRONG IS WRONG, no matter what the colour of the victim & perpetrator; this leads me to say YOU ARE RACIST and you are no better than those you believe justified in judging and for whom you reserve your callous carelessness.

      If you want to talk about Karma, then read this page until the end: http://mspoliticalcommentary.blogspot.com/201...

      @ John Smith (Date Posted: Thursday 03-Dec-2009):
      "I have read the comments made by various people and what I find most frightening are comments made by Onelove in Holland and Janet O Brien in Scotland. Comments that seem to say that the Blacks are fully justified in committing these heinous crimes - that their "oppression" gives them the right to commit savage and barbaric acts. It is important to point out that the greater majority of Whites still trapped in this country are descendants from European Dutch and Scots. Europe invaded this continent for the sole purpose of exploiting its natural resources. Wars were fought for the gold and diamonds of this country during which the British methodically murdered women and children in concentration camps - what form of redress should be conducted against the British for the murder of these thousands of women and children - should that give the Whites licence to take revenge on the British? Would it be OK for the SA Whites to torture, murder and rape some of the British who still live in this country? I would also like to draw their attention to the atrocities committed by the Germans during WWII - it has now been established beyond any reasonable doubt, with the discovery of mass graves all over Europe, that ordinary German citizens were complicit in what is described as the Silent Holocaust, before Himmler commisioned the Death Camps. Today Germany together with France are the two most powerful countries in the European Union - do you propogate that any murder, torture and rape of German men, women and children committed by the Jews in revenge would be justified? Germans today are world leaders and despite the atrocities of WWII they are admired and welcomed everywhere - but the SA Whites must pay for apartheid with their blood and that is ok? It is justified? When the contents of the Wannasee Protocol becamne known to the leaders of the free Western World they shut their borders to the Jews, trying to flee the persecution and wholesale murders and that make them just as guilty of murder as the Germans."

      - very good post, John. Excellent point.


      People must read about Piet Retief's death, Weenen, Bloukrans, etc. Portugese seafarers sailed around the Cape looking for a trade route to India and Cape Town was originally a Dutch trading post / refreshment station. There was also a 'Mail Tree' at Mosselbay which served as a post office of sort. However then the British came along and colonised the area and some of the Dutch started moving away. This is the Great Trek. By 1770, the nearest black tribes were about 1000kms away (but moving south from central africa) from the cape and from around 1815, Xhosa wars (between different black tribes) occurred. Early in 1838, unarmed Piet Retief and his group of 69 men were ambushed and ordered to be killed by Dingaan. Dingaan killed his half-brother Shaka 10 years prior and took over his land, cattle, etc. Shaka is the one who killed 2000 of his (black) subjects for basically not wailing loudly enough when his mother died.

      They have been butchering sleeping white people in their beds, gang-raping women and babies, etc. since 1838, long before Apartheid and long before they knew anything about being 'colonized'.

      People must also read about what happened in Cato Manor (in Durban) in 1949.

      http://www.africancrisis.co.za/Article.php?ID...
      http://boerboel1.wordpress.com/2010/04/17/the...
      http://www.nytimes.com/1994/04/22/world/feari...
      [Pics] Important: Blacks call for the Extermination of White South Africans - One Bullet, One Baby - Murder the White Babies!
      http://www.africancrisis.co.za/Article.php?ID...
      http://censorbugbear-reports.blogspot.com/201...
      [Pics]
      Important: ANC Politician & Cadres Support and Defend Accused Murderers of two Brutally Tortured Boer Women
      http://www.africancrisis.co.za/Article.php?ID...

      People need to tell their stories (and history) and not allow a bunch of genocidal maniacs to rewrite history for their own purposes.

      South African Reader


      Date Posted: Tuesday 13-Apr-2010
      One thing that everyone appears to be overlook here is the bigger picture; from order create chaos so that a new order can then be created. I believe South Africans are almost ready to accept a new order. Its a world wide phenomena taking place, and White South Africans are just pawns in a deceptive game.

      Rob
      South Africa


      Date Posted: Sunday 04-Apr-2010
      In the light of the deliberate murder of Eugene Terblanche, let me point you to some very important links on this site. Here is our farm murders page: [Pics] Gore: Very gruesome: Farm Murders in South Africa (from 1994-2007)

      NB: A Transvaal Agricultural Union official was interviewed today. He said that in recent months (no doubt since Julius Malema, the Head of the ANC Youth League has been busy in public with his race hate mongering), that farm murders have increased from one every 25 days to one every 18 days. So the campaign of attacks on whites has most definitely been increasing for months now. President Jacob Zuma has defended Julius Malema's hate speech and the ANC is going to court to fight a court ruling which bans Malema from singing "Kill the Boer" in public. The ANC wants him to be allowed to sing this. On this very weekend that Eugene Terblanche was murdered, Malema is in Zimbabwe on official ANC business meeting with Robert Mugabe and apparently, the Zimbabweans are now also singing "Kill the Boer". There are definite moves towards racial confrontation going on here.

      I put up this challenge directly to President Jacob Zuma. If he is intent on murdering us whites and engaging in a race war, then stop skulking around. Be a man, for once, come out and say so, and we'll meet you without any preparation with whatever weapons we have at hand. See: S.Africa: 2010: Attention: President Jacob Zuma - Do you want a Race War with the Afrikaners IMMEDIATELY?

      See also: IMPORTANT: What S.Africa's Intelligence Services will do Secretly now that Eugene Terreblanche is dead... and Yahoo News: The ANC's Kill the Boer Hate speech led directly to the murder of Eugene Terreblanche and URGENT: ATTENTION: Afrikaners must call for International Investigation into ANC assassination of Eugene Terreblanche - Write to Embassies NOW... and S.Africa: Testimony from an ex-Airforce Flight Engineer who knew Eugene Terreblanche... and VERY IMPORTANT: The Murder of Eugene Terblanche - I just heard about it: The ANC's Coming Race War against Afrikaners... and S.Africa: White Woman Tortured, Sexually Assaulted & Murdered in broad daylight and Microsoft undermines Boer Genocide awareness - Please support our Farm Murders page and VERY IMPORTANT: Julius Malema - President Zuma's Secret Agent Visits Mugabe: We will take White Farms in SA... and [3 Pics] S.Africa: Woman Tortured to Death with Boiling Water and [2 Pics] SA: Journalist Tortured to Death Farm Murder Style

      Jan Lamprecht
      Johannesburg
      South Africa


      Date Posted: Tuesday 29-Dec-2009
      I am sickend by all of the black on white murders in SA. These crimes are not reported by our liberal media in the US.I will never be able to get those horrific crime scene images out of my head.I hope the whites are able to leave SA. Let those savages fend for themselves when the whites leave. I hope they all starve or die of AIDs (which ever comes first).

      Vanderwater
      USA


      Date Posted: Saturday 19-Dec-2009
      Hey Wasp, I am the webmaster for www.SADF.info and am looking for previous members of SACC as I am needing any photos, text history and any other info to do with the Unit for my website. We were proud in those days and the SAKK were good soldiers. Always fely safe on the border with SAKK troepe around...

      Brakenjan


      Date Posted: Saturday 19-Dec-2009
      jsy is mos reg, weet jsy! Hulle het die verkeerde bus ou pel! Naai my blaar hulle het blind gedagtes!

      Sovereign


      Date Posted: Saturday 19-Dec-2009
      I dont get this..Im a coloured man,i have khoisan ancstory (obviously).Now,please dont confuse coloured people with cape malay people,who are also classified as coloured but whos forefathers came from indonesia and malaysia,because im a coloured person,khoisan mixed with white...What really pisses me off,is not all the moaning and complaining BUT why cant blacks amd whites just piss off from out of SA.You hate each other,so fuck off out of here.Just because we were forced to become racially mixed here doesnt make this not my fatherland any more.You people came here,blacks from the north and whites on a ship and starting bothering us here..My advice for blacks,whites, and indians,if u have a problem with each other,then FUCK OFF,and whether SA survives with or without u is irrelevant.You all have your father lands sumwhere else,This is the coloured and full-blooded khoisan man's land.

      W.A.S.P


      Date Posted: Thursday 03-Dec-2009
      I have read the comments made by various people and what I find most frightening are comments made by Onelove in Holland and Janet O Brien in Scotland. Comments that seem to say that the Blacks are fully justified in committing these heinous crimes - that their "oppression" gives them the right to commit savage and barbaric acts. It is important to point out that the greater majority of Whites still trapped in this country are descendants from European Dutch and Scots. Europe invaded this continent for the sole purpose of exploiting its natural resources. Wars were fought for the gold and diamonds of this country during which the British methodically murdered women and children in concentration camps - what form of redress should be conducted against the British for the murder of these thousands of women and children - should that give the Whites licence to take revenge on the British? Would it be OK for the SA Whites to torture, murder and rape some of the British who still live in this country? I would also like to draw their attention to the atrocities committed by the Germans during WWII - it has now been established beyond any reasonable doubt, with the discovery of mass graves all over Europe, that ordinary German citizens were complicit in what is described as the Silent Holocaust, before Himmler commisioned the Death Camps. Today Germany together with France are the two most powerful countries in the European Union - do you propogate that any murder, torture and rape of German men, women and children committed by the Jews in revenge would be justified? Germans today are world leaders and despite the atrocities of WWII they are admired and welcomed everywhere - but the SA Whites must pay for apartheid with their blood and that is ok? It is justified? When the contents of the Wannasee Protocol becamne known to the leaders of the free Western World they shut their borders to the Jews, trying to flee the persecution and wholesale murders and that make them just as guilty of murder as the Germans.

      John Smith


      Date Posted: Wednesday 28-Oct-2009
      Vryburger 94
      Oos Transvaal
      SA
      (And some of the others)

      You do us whites a great honour in your defensive and factual commenting. Both the Black nation in SA and around the world will need to change in order to have some "peace" amongst races. There will always be ignorant people to ramble and runt on topics which they do not know or research anything of. I'm glad that we have intelligent people.

      ----
      To the Racist blacks and there remarks... you never learn! (And that's a FACT). So many black people have NO good results on school exams nor final certificates (some even try to forge AND TEACHERS help them to do so). This comes from the "new generation" the so called rainbow generation, who was given every chance to learn the same things that our nation learned... yet they still refuse., they'd rather toi-toi than study. Only a few times have I seen a black person stand up and say that they HAVE to study to IMPROVE and have a better future. I commend those few black people/students.
      ALOT of the educators also has *shitty* marks, not even passing matric at some point and they ARE TEACHING black, white, indian and coloured people ALL THE SAME!

      --To Onelove, you'd be really helping that black child by taking them out of here 'cause you'll be separating that kid from it's roots and thus have a child that will learn and live under different community ethics... until they return to those roots, like a lot of the so-called africans in other countries are doing.
      Also, about the fair chances and poor matter... there are probably 10x (don't know this figure) more black people than white people and other races combined (in SA). So an example to being FAIR would be?
      If for every 1 white person 10 blacks exists. You force/allow the blacks into positions that they do not even qualify to be in and deny that opportunity to that one white guy that could've done the job extremely well... is that fair?

      WHEN will equality be reached? Never. AIDS, the very reason why they ask white people and other races to assist in finding a cure... And even then they'll see it as unequal 'cause we practiced our professions and built learning centres and stored procedures/data to assist for future generations.


      ---
      Sorry for this being so long but it's an input that needs to be made from my end.
      - EVEN BLACK South Africans hates what their so-called "Brothers" are doing to white people. I've talked to quite a few who despise that fact that they come from the same race as the barbarians who can't keep their penises in their pants and their hands off things that don't belong to them.

      I really hope and pray that the negative people are wrong about the future of white, coloured and indian people in South Africa, as this is a very beautiful with possibility beyond imagination.

      A side note.. .2010 should be an eye opener to those in disbelief. That's if things are going the same way it currently is going with the gangs getting bigger and bigger. Latest i heard was a group of 20 ARMED men (note, all weapons were confiscated from people, mostly white people complied to the new law, but those weapons got to criminals...) I'll leave it as that.

      Goodluck to the ones who try make a difference.
      Best wishes to the family and friends of the innocent victims of their soulless murders.
      (To those who aim to refer to apartheid, I ask nicely, go to the bottom of all the comments and read the referral links FIRST!)

      White South African
      SA


      Date Posted: Saturday 24-Oct-2009
      Dear lovers of anything that is black, can walk, learn to read and write.

      You have a long lost dream about saving the world and make it a better place.

      I too one had that same dream. Oh yes. I believed we could all work together and South Africa will prosper.

      That was until I saw Adieu Africa. A movie.
      It ripped my faith to shreds.

      Then I started to look around me and soon realised that in RSA the black people are too ignorant to open their eyes. Instead they want to blame anything on white people that upset them. Even AIDS is our fault. Can you believe that?

      Now we are sitting with people like Julius Malema, he failed woodwork in school with a GG. That is for standard grade. And he is a black man from Africa known for their ability to do magic with wood. Oh yes, he was twenty at the time.

      His high school results which he hopes will allow him to study law at UNISA.
      Sepedi first languageHG E
      Afrikaans second language HG E
      English second language HG C
      Geography HG F
      History SG D
      Woodworking SG GG
      Mathematic SG H

      As you can see he did get an E for his mother language.
      Impressive by his standards.

      He at this point in time is visiting the USA to make friends with his black friends there.
      Well he believes they are his friends.
      He will soon wake up, he is just a polital playball because of his total lack of brains and big mouth.

      And believe you me, he has the road paved to become this country's president if not stopped.

      And that is the story of the leader of the ANC youth league.

      What more can I say but enjoy the ride to oblivion.

      Garde

      Garde


      Date Posted: Saturday 19-Sep-2009
      Janet O'Brien, I have to say I am astounded at the fact that you don't seem overly concerned about what happend to this poor women and more concerned about the expected, resultant backlash considering that you are also a woman. Are you thereby advocating this type of violence in South Africa and perhaps support this type of behaviour?

      Brakenjan


      Date Posted: Saturday 19-Sep-2009
      Words fail me - how can people spew such venom against one another? I'm amazed that such postings are allowed.

      Janet O'Brien
      Scotland


      Date Posted: Tuesday 08-Sep-2009
      For a new hope vote for The Cape Party at the following address www.capeparty.com they are attempting to gain independance for the whole of the Cape Province with the UN as an independant country breaking away from the rest of SA. Help them where you can as we need to achieve this!!!

      Brakenjan


      Date Posted: Tuesday 08-Sep-2009
      Onelove
      In a way I feel sorry for you because your ignorance is not of your own making. You are totaly brainwhashed and please take that to heart.
      Go and find the REAL truth on your own, and stop repeating what others told you, so that you can be part of their group. You just make an ass of yourself with people who can think for themselves.
      I'm not trying to be nasty with you even though it sounds like it. Sometimes "you must be cruel to be kind".

      Grazy
      Pretoria


      Date Posted: Monday 07-Sep-2009
      OneLove,

      The incredible lack of knowledge of Europeans and other Westerners, about real black Africans in Africa is amazing. It borders on criminal negligence and complicity in white genocide in Africa.

      We live in an era where one who really want to determine and distinguish between fact vs fiction and truth vs Political Correctness, one can.

      Anyone with a natural urge to find the truth, can do so with relative ease by just searching the internet.

      I see you conveniently group Apartheid with slavery. It might shock you to take note of the fact that blacks in South Africa were never slaves! Not slaves of whites anyway! That is just another lie you've been taught by liberals with ulterior motives, or perhaps you are trying to popularize this gross lie yourself!

      You and others like you need a serious wake up. All over the world in Europe, America or anywhere that you can find blacks, you will find that where-ever they reach the critical mass in a suburb, neighborhood or society, everything takes a tumble. Standards drop, safety and security drop, crime increases and civilization takes a serious knock.

      Why is that? Is it because of Apartheid and slavery of blacks in Amsterdam, committed by the Dutch?

      You are clueless!
      Firstly you do not have any idea of what so-called Apartheid meant or what it really was all about. Apartheid or SEPARATE DEVELOPMENT was conceived and developed to prevent exactly the chaos, mayhem, murder, rape, torture and savage brutality of Africans, from being forced down upon the white western Africans of South Africa.

      There was nothing wrong with Apartheid. Each people were given their ancestral and historical land and were supposed to live according to their own choice of culture, way of life, economic preferences and political preference on their own land. Each people ruling themselves and being a sovereign state.

      But the blacks looked over the fence into white South Africa and they coveted the product of white culture, although they hated the carriers of that culture.

      What the West and liberals did for the gain of the Money Powers in London, was to organize and orchestrate the greatest land theft/robbery in the history of man, in South Africa. But that is a story for another day.

      The world forced our weak leaders to accept the risk of living in a so-called democracy one state solution with majority vote, with these savages and we are paying the price for that today!

      We are not paying the price for having had Apartheid. No, we are paying the savage price of giving up the only real defense against black savagery, namely Apartheid.

      If you had any brains at all, you would realize that we the Boers, brought Africans civilization. We found loincloth wearing savages, without a written language, without the wheel, without any form of development beyond the early Iron Age and gave them jobs, constant food and income, housing, medical, education etc... and self rule on their own land!!!

      And in 1994 we gave them the total fruits of our commitment to Africa, namely the only First World country in Africa! It took them only 15 years to degenerate back to African standards or the lack thereof!

      And you want to lay a guilty trip on us? Blame us for black incompetence, natural corruption and abuse of power and inborn criminality? You are delusional. You and all black Africans should be kissing our feet and arses for what they received totally undeserved from us!

      You are perpetuating some of the greatest lies in recorded history.

      Wise up!
      Europe is going down soon with exactly the same source of demise! Massive influx of blacks into your countries and communities.

      Then you will find that the black Africans with an average IQ of 72 and a resultant savage culture, will eventually breed and live you out of your own country, endanger your race and the heritage of your children and change your soft European sissy lives into living hell!!!

      But you will probably label me a racist instead of listening and doing some worthwhile fact finding.

      So you or your children will eventually pay the price for your soft fuzzy brain liberal mental disease!

      Vryburger 94
      Oos Transvaal
      SA


      Date Posted: Monday 07-Sep-2009
      One love please wake up from your decades of slumber and read some books or even the News for a change. Read some History of the slaughter in Rwanda, or the happenings of the African continent and the results.
      If you want to adopt an african child there are lots being Bin`d in Berea in SA.
      My Goodness surely you cannot be Blind.Had we not tried to keep our self preserved then we would have all been slaughtered long ago. OH yes read about Chaka Zulu.

      Nomad


      Date Posted: Monday 07-Sep-2009
      Onelove from Amsterdam
      Please, you probably have never put a foot on African soil. We live here and loose our loved ones to the bloodlust of barbarians. It is very arogant of you to dream up such dreams and keep on blaming us.
      Open your eyes and have a look at what is hapening in your own country, but I believe you are to "enlightened" to be able to do that.
      If ever you wake up, tell me, I will softly stroke your head and tell you I'm so sorry for your pain.... with a terreble smile on my turned face.

      Grazy
      Pretoria
      South Africa


      Date Posted: Monday 07-Sep-2009
      Dear people,

      First I want to say im terribly sorry to hear about people getting killed in the most cruel ways.

      I'm reading all those messages and there is a lot of hate under whites and probably under blacks also.

      But I want to point out a view things, and ask a few questions.

      Are the problems that South Afrika are facing on this moment a product of Apartheid and slavery?

      If whites saw blacks as equals many many years ago, and created fair chances for the poor, wouldn't the problems be far less?

      If I adopt a black baby from Africa, it would be successful in Europe, its all about development, education and chances.

      My advice to the the whites in SA is to understand and investigate your history, how your people used the blacks and did little effort to help and develop the black majority. And now you "smart whites" don't understand why this is happening in their country.

      Wake up indeed!

      A white person!

      Onelove
      Amsterdam
      The Netherlands


      Date Posted: Sunday 12-Jul-2009
      Nomad,

      I understand your logic about these savage and inherently criminal blacks and the black bullsshhiitt that they dispense. I would also have preferred to make him swallow his keybpoard and choke all the way to hell where he and others like him belong.

      However I believe that there is a massive media cover-up of what blacks are up to and about what blacks really are.

      The easiest way to expose them and wake whites out of their media and church induced liberal stupor, is to let the most stupid ones amongst the blacks show the real black monsters hiding behind their fascade of the "poor noble savages" acting in response to white oppression.

      And believe me, we need to wake the whites up soon! Otherwise it will be too late.

      Vryburger 94
      Oos Transvaal
      SA


      Date Posted: Sunday 12-Jul-2009
      I am open to corrective and constructive Critisism, and also for freedom of Expression, perhaps my seeing it, feels there is no positiveness to some Comments and alot of Comments are just not Stimulating and Factless, and one learns nothing New. Like Shoveling and its not filling the Concrete Mixer.
      Also the way I see it, is when some Not to clever comments pipe up, eg "Im glad whites are slaughtered" and A European reads this the first Question he asks is "Why" typically Liberal the whites must have been really KaK to this poor man, not because he broke the LAW. The Europeans that see through these Lies are the ones that have Lived or have been Affected in AFRICA.

      Nomad


      Date Posted: Sunday 12-Jul-2009
      To Gairk:

      Thanks for publishing my comment but why censoring half of it?

      Reply to Lars Pluss: I approved you comment "as is" and didn't censor anything. Maybe you pressed the "Ok" button too soon? Please let us have the rest of your comment. Gairk.

      Lars Pluss
      San Francisco CA
      USA


      Date Posted: Sunday 12-Jul-2009
      To:
      Gairk, Nomad and Lars Plus,

      It is important to publish all black rubbish as it is the only way to open the eyes of whites to reality.

      As long as the blacks' hatred of whites and their typical African approach of entitlement and lust for undeserved power, riches and white women are disguised, white men on average will rather be politically correct than to grow their spines back and stand up for themselves, loved ones, own people, heritage and future.

      So bring it on!

      Vryburger 94
      Oos Transvaal
      SA


      Date Posted: Saturday 11-Jul-2009
      To Gairk: I’m glad you published his comment. This is a forum where different opinions should be expressed.

      Lars Pluss
      San Francisco CA
      USA


      Date Posted: Saturday 11-Jul-2009
      To Nomad: Although I don't have to justify my decision to let Young AfrocentriK's comment through, I will. My mouse hovered over the "disapprove" button for a very long time. Ultimately, I approved it because every white and all other sensible people everywhere need to see what rubbish white Africans have to deal with. My message to you is plain and simple: "Gebruik jou kop man"!

      To Young AfrocentriK: Dream on you racist bastard - there is no danger of any extinction of the white race. There are more then enough of us on this planet. We made the mistake to facilitate you blacks breeding like flies through our superior medical technology, economic prosperity, stopping your wars as well as pouring countless billions into Africa. The white race’s patience with you is rapidly drawing to an end. When that happens your numbers will rapidly shrink back to where they should be.

      Gairk * AfricanCrisis Volunteer *
      In the EU


      Date Posted: Saturday 11-Jul-2009
      I dont know why these sort of comments are even published especialy from unimportant Toxic Breeders that dont contribute towards civil society. If it was a Politian it would be worth the read and comment. Africancrisis comments should be based on contribution to correctness, advice and exposure. Any Fool can say anything and that should be deleted. It only revs up people and incites racial hatred.
      Vryburger dont even waste your time correcting this... what ever it is, because it just doesnt go in, because there is nothing inside.

      Nomad


      Date Posted: Saturday 11-Jul-2009
      @ Young AfrocentriK
      Luanda
      Angola

      You are ignorant and stupid.
      If the white man did not settle in Africa, you would not be here!
      Your forefathers would have been killed in one of many black on black massacres endemic to Africa and its savages. And I hope you have enough brains to understand that without forefathers, there would be no you!

      Further you should take note that the only reason why you can spew your anti-white verbal diarrhea doggy-dung around the world, is because you are using WHITE technology. Without WHITE technology those of you blacks not wiped out by other blacks, would have died like flies because of black endemic violence, corruption, poverty, drought, hunger, starvation and filthiness.

      Then try and act like a man and be truthful for a change!
      The white South Africans mainly acquired THEIR land South Africa in three ways:
      - Move in unto unoccupied and no-mans land,
      - Buy or trade land from the few black tribes in some areas,
      - Win land in battles with enemies.

      All three methods were legal at the time.
      Which means that South Africa legally belongs to the White Afrikaner People!

      Blacks in South Africa today and in the past, migrated from Central and Eastern Africa towards the South on foot. They are just as much “settlers” as the whites who migrated with technology called shipping from Europe.

      The big difference between whites and blacks were and still is:
      Where whites settle, they build sustainable communities, law and order, civilization and prosperity,
      Whereas,
      Where blacks settle, they rape the land and its natural inhabitants (man, animal and Fauna and Flora), create ghettos of corruption, lawlessness and savagery, poverty and misery. Then after Fffhucckinggg all up, move on to the next “green” spot to start your black and evil cycle of destruction again!
      And whilst blaming whites for the inborn natural stupidity and savagery of blacks, holding out the beggars bowl to those same whites to feed them and nowadays to provide them with bling, bling and wa-benzi…

      You black nincompoops have sour grapes because your morally, military and humanly superiors, the whites, made you see what utterly useless savage eaters and low-level parasites you are at every contact. And little has changed since then. You are still just as morally and physically stupid, primitive, corrupt and savage. You black parasites only learned how to use and abuse the white man’s civility, civilized religion and technology against him. As usual, biting the white hand that fed you and plucked you by the crazy curls out of the Stone and early Iron Age, into the Modern Age!

      So why don’t you go rape and Angolan tree or baboon, instead of spewing the filth that your primitive brain produces, here amongst civilized people.

      Vryburger 94
      Oos Transvaal
      SA


      Date Posted: Friday 10-Jul-2009
      South Africans have every right to take back what is rightfully theirs, it's sad this woman had to die, but things like this will not stop until you mutants leave the lands you were never invited to. Portuguese, British, Boer, Afrikaner, Dutch, etc... you are all trespassing on Afrikan soil. Please keep yourselves updated with these type of stories, it won't stop until the white population of South Africa mirrors the Black population of Russia....that day is inevitable, with the low birth rate of whites and the rapid aging of their population, aggrivation will only accelerate the process.

      I'm glad whites are slowly dying out and are becoming less and less apart of the global population.

      Young AfrocentriK
      Luanda
      Angola


      Date Posted: Tuesday 28-Apr-2009
      God told the Israelites to rid the land of Pagan Perverts. They didn't do it. Result? 4000 years later they are trying to do what they should have done all that time ago. The Boers played the same stupid game, & are know paying the price.

      When you want to get rid of Malaria, you drain the swamps & fumicate the area. Result? No more bugs. When you want to get rid of rats, you cover all holes with heavy grease. The rats cover their scent & are savaged by the other rats. You don't play with fire, otherwise you get burned. Boers need to get more guns with Silencers so that they can take out the Murderers. The best means og getting rid of bodies is to have lots of pigs. Shave all hair off the body & break the teeth off. The pig can't eat hair or teeth, but they will devour everything else.

      The numbers are against you, but with secrecy, & strict discipline it can be turned around. If you have to take out a few Liberals, so what. Your attitude has to totally change or GET TO HELL OUT OF THERE.

      Leonardo

      Leonardo de la Paor
      Limerick
      IRELAND.


      Date Posted: Wednesday 01-Apr-2009
      The world will sit by and watch more and more Afrikaners being tortured to death. The world will wake up once terrorists start using South Africa to re-group, because the infrastructure is still good, thanks to the Dutch who became Afrikaners.
      The rest of sub-Sarahan Africa is of course worse off than South Africä - in fact, they are implicit monuments to the fact that Apartheid South Africa (and Rhodesia) provided better for their people (all of them) than the rest of Sub-Saharan Africa.

      Ross : Anti-Apartheid scum extractor
      pretoria
      south africa


      Date Posted: Wednesday 25-Mar-2009
      black people are savages. they think killing white people accomplishes something, it just shows their stupidity. they will all pay.

      jay


      Date Posted: Wednesday 11-Mar-2009
      What I see in SA is a terrorist group of ANC blacks accompanied by its allies the Zimbabweans who really just want to take everything the whites have built up over many years. That is what the communist does. He waits for someone to build up and then makes plans to take it over. We live in the 20th century but they still believe in ancestors and by mutilating babies and individuals by cutting off body parts and taking it to their witchdoctors. We read it in the news papers everyday. These bastard communist ANC conbrats indoctrinated their youth to believe that all whites are boers. I mean you got to blame your stupidity on someone. Now these brain dead baboons are running around killing all whites. Yes, that is right. We live here, we know what’s going on. They kill you just because you’re white, not because you are a boer. That’s only an excuse to commit genocide on the whites. The reason why they torture is because they believe that if they kill someone they have to torture you then the blessing of the ancestors will be upon them. They actually believe this crap. I cannot wait for 2010 world cup soccer. The rest of the world don't believe us but crime is rampant in SA. I invite them all and will not feel sorry for anyone murdered, raped, robbed in SA. We warned you but you didn't listen. I would especially want to invite all those who criticize the boers. Please make a turn in SA you pissbags. The government hides it and does not want to talk about it. The president, police commissioner, government officials have court cases pending against them for fraud, theft, murder and so on. Most of the government posts are totally black. Just imagine what’s going on here. This place is a major Fup thanks to incompetent, corrupt, murderess, fraudulent, thieving, child killing and raping, striking, communist controlled ANC and accompanied parties. Please visit South Africa. Just a note of warning. Watch your back, belongings, children, credit cards and family. Because if you don’t you will have to pay the price. I hope they all die of aids.

      Harding


      Date Posted: Tuesday 10-Mar-2009
      Wow.....i didn´t know it was THAT bad down in SA. Are these gangs of blacks drugged or what is the "nature" of torturing and killing, when what they are after is money? Looks like it`s the standard way when they rob a house. Sad & scary it is. Wery difficult to understand the fear you people in SA must fase every day.......

      Pete

      mrnoname
      Denmark


      Date Posted: Thursday 05-Mar-2009
      Kill or be killed. Lets face it. The people who moved into the wilderness in search for a better life were from Germany, Netherlands and so on. It does not really matter where they came from. What matters is where they were going. Many boers were murdered by the black savages as they moved through the country side in search of a piece of land to grow crops and make a living. Today it's the same. The blacks are continuing their murdering spree. You can take the baboon out of the bush but you cannot take the bush out of the baboon.

      The people behind the media publications who make the boer an evil nation do it for a reason. When the English heard about the gold found in South Africa they sent their troops to kill the boers, place their wives and children in concentration camps and burn their farms. All in the name of the QUEEN BITCH and the God they believed in. When the English didn't get what they wanted they used the blacks to obtain their goal. Everybody wanted South Africa. Now its all about majority rules, affirmative action and all that crap while the country is torn to pieces by knucle draggers who can't think for themselves. They used the blacks to get to the riches of the land. They don't care about the blacks. They don't care who runs the country as long as they control the gold and diamonds. It's all about the money.

      The boers could have killed the blacks many moons ago but they didn't. They gave them equal oppertunity in the form of appartheid. You have your toilet and I have mine. There was a reason for that. If you walk into any toilet in a black area what will you find. F*ck you don't want to know. Sh1t on the walls, floor and roof. The toilet is broken or stolen and is filled with sh1t to the brim. You can take a beautiful area and give it to the blacks. They will f*ck it up in a couple of months. Look at all the areas where blacks moved in. Its a fact. If it was Gods will for the Boers to go through all this difficult times and ridicule then let it be. But all I know is that if you put presure on a nation you only make it stronger. And if the Boer survives this difficult times its going through then its Gods will. The all you mother f*ckers who were against the Boers must get out of the way because all hell is going to break loose. Dont f*cking look back because the last thing you will see is the fury of a nation. ITS PAY BACK TIME.

      livetotell
      Johannesburg
      South Africa


      Date Posted: Sunday 08-Feb-2009
      When Blacks were murdered, where your tears. I could care less....

      LoveNGrace
      USA


      Date Posted: Monday 26-Jan-2009
      We can argue all day about who was there first and who’s done this and that to each other. Mixing of races doesn’t work and until the white people (Boers English etc) all get together and start an independent state in SA they will never have peace there.

      They only have a future as one not divided. I’ve met guys who served in the Rhodesian army and they are some of the finest soldiers you can find, these guys would be the back bone of a new police force. The Boer people are well known for being extremely skilled and hard working. Add this to English SA skills in trade and you are sure to have success even if it means starting from scratch. The white SA do have money and we all know Mugabe would sell them southern Zimbabwe for the right price if they do get signed over legally and then tries to attack it the white SA would have the backing of the UN, and I know I for one would sign up and defend it with them.

      Let the blacks rule the blacks and maybe then there will be peace in SA. God bless all the SA guys and black Africans on here know one wanted this to happen but its here now we can’t ignore it. But everyone knows the best way to stop two people fighting is split the people up and let them calm down. When the anger goes away they start seeing people again and not an enemy.

      I hope some politician in SA reads this and takes note. It would take a lot of work to start an independent white state in SA but it can be done and there’s not a better race of people to do it

      Jon Howells
      Wales


      Date Posted: Wednesday 21-Jan-2009
      Dear Kelli, being a darkie as you call yourself, why don't you move your black ass back to your mother country (Africa) and be raped by YOUR brothers and sister. I live here and I'm sick and tired of people complaining from other countries and saying we asked for this. F&*k all of you, especial the black F&*kers (hope you die). The white race should stand up and be counted, enough is enough. If our F&*ked-up government is gonna make it difficult for me to get guns, I'm gonna go the illegal route. I'll kill all you mother F&*kers myself. RIP

      REDVOX
      Vereeniging
      Suid Afrika


      Date Posted: Tuesday 20-Jan-2009
      LET THEM ROT IN JAIL WITH ALL THE WHITE, BLACK MURDERERS LIKE JOHAN NEL ETC.

      ANTHONY


      Date Posted: Sunday 28-Dec-2008
      You know what is funny? This is a problem that will solve itself. The fact is that Africa is going to be hostile to whites as long as the blacks get away with their crimes. Whites will need to leave or die as there are not enough of them to exterminate all the blacks and thus live in peace. Fortunately for the Earth blacks are the least intelligent, most violent, most incredibly worthless and useless animals on Earth. They had Africa for thousands of years without doing a thing for the place. It took immigrants from other lands to actually show them how to raise their standard of living and when those immigrants leave, Africa will return to being a land of unintelligent savages incapable of doing anything to better themselves. Food production in Zimbabwe is already past crisis levels. South Africa will experience the same progress when the blacks finish take over of the white farms, returning them to useless overgrown fallow and fetid piles of rubbish. No food = less population. Let loose the third horseman, famine and disease, to ride again.

      No health care, no thought to anything except today, and whitey not there to supply any of it. No whites to grow and cultivate the food, no whites to make and maintain the machines that make it all possible, no whites to heal the sick, and no whites to keep the thieves at bay. Oh what a glorious future for Africa! A nice 80% population drop with a return to the feral savagery of the last 10,000 years of its history. Such is the fate of the black land - and they deserve it. :)

      Truthsayer


      Date Posted: Monday 22-Dec-2008
      You can sense the hostile nature within the comments defending these animals. They are not only vicious but unrepentant.

      It is sad how everyone in this country screaming "affirmative action" and "kill whitey" is either unaware of the horrors befalling White Africans, or worse, completely aware but ignoring these atrocities to uphold the sugary "rainbow nation" facade.

      Of course the indigenous Black Africans are hardly any safer anywhere on the continent. Southern Africa, Rhodesia and South Africa, were once safe havens for white and black alike before the terrorists and murderers were handed absolute power thanks to the international community.

      EFM
      United States


      Date Posted: Tuesday 16-Dec-2008
      A reply to 'Afrikaner lies' at:

      http://www.africancrisis.co.za/Article.php?ID...

      Janolifant *AfricanCrisis Volunteer*


      Date Posted: Tuesday 16-Dec-2008
      The Khoi and San did not 'suddenly die out'. They are very much alive and kicking. Their descendants live all over the Western and Northern Cape. This was discovered by a University of Witwatersrand, Johannesburg research team when they dug up and examined the graves of farmworkers on old South African farmers and compared their DNA with the DNA of Áfrikaans-speaking 'coloured' people living in the same areas today. They found two interesting things: one was that the graves of the oldest farm workers contained the bodies of the San, the Bushmen, dating about 150 years back. Their examinations showed that the San never consumed calcium-products such as milk and were for this reason very small-statured.

      When they examined the second-generation graves of these farm workers, they discovered tht whle they were much taller and usually referred to as "Khoi' rather than "San or Bushmen', they were all related. The DNA of the Bushmen was closely linked to the DNA of the later generation of farm workers and of the second-generation of so-named "Khoi'.

      These University of Witwatersrand researchers were very surprised about these findings. They analysed the chemical structure of the bones and found that there was only reason for this dramatic physical change - which made people believe that all the Khoi-San had died out. When they came into contact with the Boer farmers, they started consuming milk. When they were still hunter-gatherers, they did not maintain livestock and did not drink milk. To this day, the Khoi-San have a very distinct genetic allergy to fresh milk and generally only consume milk after it has been soured. This practice was also carried through in the Xhosa-population which has widely interbred with the Khoi-San because the Xhosa had captured them as slaves.

      Adriana Stuijt
      Dokkum
      The Netherlands


      Date Posted: Monday 15-Dec-2008
      Firstly. How many Blacks(Khoi and San) did the Afrikaner/Dutch murder when they first arrived in SA?

      Why did the Khoi and San suddenly die out?

      The early Dutch wanted the land the Khoi and San occupied and owned so they just shot them, men, women, children. No reporters, TV Crews, or journalists to reveal the truth in those days?

      Don't blame the British, they didn't arrive for a long time in the future, in SA.

      Then the other blacks tribes came, Zulus, Xhosas, etc. They were not as placid as the Khoi and San so they fought back against the Afrikaner. They Afrikaner hated this! After all they(Afrikaner)considered themselves God's children(I thought the Jews were!)and some sort of lost tribe of Israel!!? They quickly forgot they were originally just peasants, farm labourers, village trash, that ran from Europe to escape the Prostestant/Catholic uphevals that were going on at the time there. They came mainly from the Netherlands, Germany, Belgium, France.

      They invented a form of bastardised Dutch language so's they could understand each other. Well it was better than sign language! There were mainly men in the early days so it was the Khoi and San women or the Baboons! The coloured population was then born.

      They believed, as the same today, that it's OK to kill Blacks, and any other race they felt were inferior or not pure to them. After all the Old Testament says so! Tens of thousands of Zulus, Xhosas, men, women, and children were killed by them in the early days. No reporters to report this, only the passing of stories and information from person to person that the black tribes used for communication and the retention of past history.

      They had no culture, only their 'Kitchen Dutch' language so they adopted the British system of schooling, British system of government based on the new Australian Federal Government system which came into power when Australia became 'independent' in 1901! British system of law, British system of road rules and driving on the right, British system of local and regional government, British sports such as Rugby union and cricket, British system of armed forces structure. In fact they adopted everything British because they had no real educated people. Architects, engineers, scientists, teachers, etc were exported from Britain to build their country. After the Boer war the Afikaner were just a whole lot of ignorant bunch of farmers with little to no schooling! With the help of the British and others, and the vast reserve of cheap black slave labour, they built SA. They pride themselves on this!??

      Australia, Canada, USA, New Zealand, South America was built on the blood, sweat and tears of hard working whites. With the exception of Black slaves who were only used on farms and plantations to pick crops and till the land. All the great cities and projects of the New World were built by whites!!!!! 99% of white immigrants in the new world as above did not have maids, gardeners, nannies, cooks, Labourers etc, paid next to nothing to do all their housework and gardening for them! They(overseas whites)did it all themselves! while bringing up their children while their husbands worked to support them, usually for very little money in the old days.

      While the rest of us in the White world watched the Boer kill and maim innocent blacks on TV, the white Afrikaner Government kept this all hidden from the local white population. They didn't want them to know the truth. They only got TV in 1975!!! The rest of the white civilised world got it during the 1950's!!! The government said that TV would corrupt the young white SA persons morals, but it was alright to 'hate' and shoot fellow human beings that were of a darker skin colour than themselves! That it was alright to look down on another human being that was non-white such as asians, coloured, indians, and just about anybody who were not White-Afrikaner! I wonder how the darker skinned Spanish, Greeks, Italians were treated in SA during apartheid?? The mighty civilisations and empires that the above built, the architecture and inventions they brought to the world. The writings and philosophy of the Greek scholars such as Plato and Socrates etc. The wonderful art and sculptures etc. What did the afrikaner bring to the world? A coil of sausages called boerewors and a twisted pastry strip called Kocksisters!!!!!

      Censorship by the Boers was widespread before 1994, and this included everthing from magazines to music. Newspapers reporters were bashed and harrashed for telling the truth. Nearly all fled SA!

      The world, or nearly all of it barred SA from sporting events. If white SA's were so hard done by, why were they put out in the wilderness??

      By number of population, the asians are the most affected by crime including murder, then blacks, then indians, then coloureds, and last whites!!!

      You should put under each photo of a white murdered, 'Our God of our afrikaner bible allows and wishes this!!'..and if you blame Satan or the Devil, then God must be powerless over him!!...or maybe it's just Karma catching up with the Boers!

      Afrikaner Lies


      Date Posted: Thursday 26-Jun-2008
      We can take care of those savages.Send them on over here to 'Bama

      tim
      USA


      Date Posted: Thursday 20-Mar-2008
      Russel I would like to try and shed some light on a couple of points raised by you.
      You question correctly why whites,coloureds and Indians don't all question the fair implementation of the freedom charter.
      The answer is simple the coloureds,blacks and Indians benifit from it when the whites don't qualify for jobs because they are white.
      It's like asking them to themselves in the foot.

      Why doesn't Erwin and Manuel make a noise? On whose payroll (big) are they?

      Please ask your good friend from the PAC to tell you truthfully what he and his parties standpoint is on the whites. They too love singing at their confrences and a popular song of theirs is " kill a farmer kill a boer" Ask him.

      You see Russel everyone has his story and we too have ours. I have a sister who is sitting in NZ because they were chased off their farm in Rhodesia and all the documents and agreements that where legal then, amounted to nothing when the black goverment wanted to increase it's black support base by handing out farms to friends,thugs and murderers.

      That is why the Freedom Charter already amounts to nothing for the whites in SA.

      Our news papers are filled each and every day with new murders,rapes and robberries. Don,t take my word for it,you have a PC go in and enlighten yourself, and once again see how much condemnation there is from the ruling ANC and their partners(PAC).

      It stays a sad state of affairs............

      Jimmy SA


      Date Posted: Tuesday 18-Mar-2008
      Jimmy you are right I am an ex South African living in the comfort of the USA. I wonder how you knew,you seem very perceptive indeed. I agree with the obections that you rased I think that the government's AA and BEE Laws are not the way to go about correcting past inequalities especialy when one finds themselves in an office envioroment with incompetent and unqualified people. AA and BEE Laws are necessary but not in their present form they need to be rewhritten. I have heard stories of incompentent blacks in positions that they don't deserve in fact one of the biggest critics had been a friend of mine who lived over here George Moffat from Pretoria who is a PAC member and ex political prisinor who served time on Robin Island not only that he is also critical of the ANC.

      As for Zuma becoming the countries next prresident the whole country will be in trouble I hope that enouth sensible blacks will relise that it will not be in their interests to vote for him. I have come across blacks who do not relish the thought of him coming to power. Latly I have read articles of him reaching out to whites I hope that they are not going to fall for it. I wonder why he is doing it given his record? I hope that whites are not going to be easily fooled by him reaching out to them I do not trust the man at all.

      If the ANC is not following their Freedom Charter and only favoring blacks I wonder why white,couloured,and indian members of the organisation arn't protesting about it? Why don't Erwin and Manuel raise their voices in protest after all they aree also likly to lose out in the goverments AA and BEE Laws?

      You have raised some good points Jimmy I will keep them in mind.

      Russell Fig
      USA

      Russell Fig
      Brookine
      USA


      Date Posted: Monday 17-Mar-2008
      Russel I have a sneaky suspicion that you are an ex-S.A staying in the comfort and safety of the USA.
      For your information the majority of white SA's agree that we should be concentrating on living together in peace and harmony for the benifit of all.
      The fact is you can't when you are told by the ANC with their freedom charter, that if you want to do business in your counrty of birth, you don't qualify. Because you haven't got a black partner who hasn't contributed a stitch to the business you have set up with your lifes savings.
      Or when your child who has had nothing to do with the apartheid error, can't get a job, because the jobs are reserved for blacks only. To date I haven't heard of a single black businessman being told that he can only do bussiness he if takes on a white partner.
      Do you know of any such cases?Please let us know.
      You talk about playing the race card. What about the apartheid card always being played?
      If you want to justify what is being done to the whites is because of what happened in the apartheid years.Surely you will agree that the whites should hate the Brits because of them putting thousands of Boers wives and children into consentration camps starving them to death.???
      Russel the problem is, no matter what you say it is the present goverment that is making the laws and not the PAC.
      Please explain to me how do we get to love one another when the new head of state to be, sings about bringing him his machinegun at their confrences. Or is that just me being a racist for objecting to that type of hate talk????
      Yes there is the freedom charter but it's not worth the paper it's written on if it isn't implemented fully for all.

      Jimmy SA


      Date Posted: Sunday 16-Mar-2008
      Jimmy it is obvious that white American is speaking from ignorance and a racist platform just take a look at his post in order to see how racist it is. Yes I would tell ANC,PAC,and BCM blacks that it is necessary for all of us to come togeheter in order to bridge our differences whites,blacks,coulourds,and indians. I don't think that the ANC needs a lesson in this regard read their Freedom Charter it claims that South Africa belongs to everyone and that "no race can claim a menopoly" as for the PAC and BCM they have alot to learn in this regard they seem to be practicing reverse racism. It would be better if the president took a more critical position regarding crime in South Africa it is unfortunate that he doesn't,however let's not play the race card in this respect and realise that crime efects all South Africans I have met black South Africns who do crticise the crime taking place in South Africa. The fact that they and I agree on this is proof that whites and blacks can and need to work together in order to overcome South Africa's problems.

      Russell Fig
      USA

      Russell Fig
      Brookline
      USA


      Date Posted: Sunday 16-Mar-2008
      Russel Fig I find it strange that you question White American on whether he has been to S.A.
      You most certainly haven't been here recently and if you claim to have been here recently, you must have assosiated and mixed with blacks and liberals only.
      We whites in S.A. take of our hats to white American because he obviously has a much more balanced veiw of what is happening here than you have Mr Fig.
      Mr Fig for your information I suggest you go and tell the ANC blacks in S.A. that what is needed is for blacks and whites to be tolerant of one another because the message isn't getting through to them, or how many more normal citizens(white) in S.A. must be murdered before it becomes acceptable to people like you and the ANC goverment.
      Have you ever heard the head of state ever stating that the daily murders must stop. I would like to read your comments on that, or is it OK.
      You still want to about appartheid?

      Jimmy SA


      Date Posted: Saturday 15-Mar-2008
      by Albert Brenner
      How Evil was Apartheid?
      October 03, 2007 01:55 PM EST

      How does one measure evil? Is there such a thing as a universal 'index' according to which deeds of evil can be judged? If we, for example, take the Universal Declaration of Human Rights as the final arbiter of what is evil and what is not, how could we then judge Zimbabwe as being more evil than, for example, China and Saudi Arabia – two countries enjoying marvelous ties with the West despite their abysmal human rights records. Is this blatant hypocrisy, or just the obligatory Real Politic of individual nations surviving in a cynical world where might (financial, military, etc) is right?

      Be that as it may; it would be quite an interesting exercise to give Joe and Jane Average a list of five words to rank according to the evilness 'index' of the West. For example; take the words Gowon, Mengisthu, Hutu, Kim IL Sung and Apartheid, and then give them a number, 1 – 5, on a scale of the evil they signify. Try it.

      It would not be surprising if your ranking closely resembles the original order of the words I listed. The first four words will most probably be vaguely familiar and have some negative connotations, whereas the last word, Apartheid, is guaranteed to conjure up images of the most evil kind. The question now obviously is whether evil is evil most foul simply because you know about it, especially in view of the fact that the above four words that you are not really familiar with denote genocides of a million and more.

      Did you know that fewer than 2000 people were deliberately killed by security forces in South Africa during the 42 years of Apartheid? And did you know that 90% of all the politically motivated deaths during Apartheid (total 20 000) was due to Black-on-Black (mostly tribal) violence? 20 000 too many of course, but seen against the background of the never-ending vilification of white South Africans, the four million-man genocides mentioned above and innumerable unknown other evils like, for example, Robert Mugabe's Knighthood, awarded by the Queen while he was massacring 21 000 Ndebeles in 1984, surely must illustrate that selective (media-borne) knowledge of evil can never be the ultimate criteria when putting together an 'index' of universal evil.

      Lest I stand accused of quantifying evil, let us examine the reason why Apartheid's 2000 dead in 42 years is judged as being more evil than, amongst others, Pol Pot's 2 million dead in 4 years and Rwanda's 1 million dead in 3 months. Apartheid South Africa was ruled by whites, and whites (the West) demand that their kin, wherever they may find themselves on this lonely planet, act according to the moral standards they have set themselves, be it those inherent in human rights, democracy or capitalism. Whenever a white nation transgresses, it is punished till it conforms….and rightly so.

      Noble and honourable indeed the West's moral hegemony is, especially given the fact that none of the other races bother to do so at all. Japan can't be bothered (except financially) by China's human rights abuses, neither can black South Africa by Mugabe's horror regime, or Saudi Arabia by the Taliban's madness. Different moral strokes for different coloured folks, it would seem.

      But then, the West has always been on a mission…..to make existence as livable as possible, for all humanity. A quest not easily undertaken or brought to fruition, especially when living in the moral outskirts of progressive human existence. ..like in Africa. Did you know that the life expectancy of black South Africans nearly equaled that of Europeans during the last decade of Apartheid? Did you know that the black population nearly trebled during Apartheid? Did you know that black South Africans had the highest per capita income and education levels in Africa during Apartheid? No, of course you didn't….because your view of evil has already been defined.

      Imagine being on a mission…to rid your surrounding world of primitive ignorance, and then you stumble across the last hurdle (the final acknowledgement of universal human rights, democracy, etc) – not because you wanted to….but because your fellow runners simply refused to acknowledge its existence

      Madam


      Date Posted: Monday 10-Mar-2008
      White American you are incouraging racism. Have you ever been to South Africa or are you just blinded by your nagative feelings towards blacks. What is needed in South Africa is craking down on crime and for whites and blacks to open up to and get to know eatch other.

      White American where in the USA are you living? I am in the Boston area,call me some time and I will tell you about Apartheid and racial relations in South Africa judging from your post whitch I doubt that you know about. Call me the number is 617 - 494 - 9276.

      Russell Fig
      Brookline
      USA


      Date Posted: Wednesday 20-Feb-2008
      I used to say 'I feel sorry for my (white) people' who are so deracinated. I no longer feel this way.

      The whites who are posing on this board, a board which exposes, on a daily basis, the horrors of a daily genocide against my people...and the future of third-world excesses practiced against same. I used to have sympathy for those people who felt a liberal sense of compassion...not any more, for they are as much responsible for these deaths in SA as they are for the black on white murders here, in my own country.

      These types of individuals will swing by the neck: either by their black brothers, or by men and women of their own kind who will be forced to fight the same fight that our Kinsment in SA have fought, and are still fighting.

      Let these putrid cowards post all they want; the end game will prove all.

      My heart feels for you, SA, the White Tip, and only the gods know when you will be avenged; but it will come.

      I am writing this for about thirty members of my community...and there are many more.

      Never, never, Surrender!!

      White American
      USA


      Date Posted: Friday 08-Feb-2008
      Dear casual observer you contradict your yourself the whole time. This is a clear sign of an asshole who doesn't know what he is talikng about.
      You say in sentance it's not racial and then you play the the apartheid game in the next. You are obviously a Democrat supporter and if you look a little closer to home and open your eyes, it is clear that you in America are the biggest rascists. Black voters supporting your black candidate and the white voters supporting the white candidate.
      You are the eight wonder of the world " THE BIGGEST BURST ASSHOLE ON EARTH".

      Jimmy SA


      Date Posted: Thursday 07-Feb-2008
      Stupid comments by stupid people who don't know what they're are talking about always hits a nerve dumbass. You're trying to hide your ignorance by ducking the question and redirecting it at the American Native population on a South African/African website - dumbass.
      You're saying whites killed blacks in South Africa on the same scales and with the same brutality as blacks are killing whites in South Africa but haven't produced the evidence I challenged you to produce - dumbass.
      In the USA most of the killings are committed by blacks and the ratio of black on white murder as opposed to white on black murder is as close to the 100th percentile that it can get - dumbass. You don't even know what's going on in your own country but want to comment on Africa, a place you probably couldn't locate on a map - dumbass.
      Whites are actually the global minority population group - dumbass.

      Cynic
      ?
      ??


      Date Posted: Thursday 07-Feb-2008
      Wow...must've hit a nerve there huh? Well...since I AM speaking from the USA..I am obviously speaking of the Native Americans and the African slaves who died in cruel bondage..and also of the lynching that continued until about the late 1960's or so. Oh..and lets not forget about Apartheid...or India under colonization. So how am I wrong? Everyone IS killing everyone with whites killing the majority because they ARE the majority in power..however, like I ALSO said, pretty much everyone is killing everyone else so it IS a human condition and NOT a race issue. You're welcome to disagree..in fact I ENCOURAGE your right to disagree. As an American..I may not agree with your politics but I will defend to the death your right to say it.

      P.S.
      LOL@what the fuck do Americans know about Africa. Well...let's see..for about 300 years Africa was major import/export outfit for this country. Dumb ass. LOL

      Casual Observer
      Mission Viejo, California


      Date Posted: Thursday 07-Feb-2008
      Hey casual observer there in the USA - would you care to give us instances of where "everybody was killing blacks" or is that just something you too once heard somewhere from somebody and are now faithfully regurgitating without examining the facts?
      For a start you're in the USA so what the FUCK do you know about Africa?
      C'mon enlighten us common idiots with your vast knowledge of Africa and how "everybody was killing blacks" which of course I'm sure you must have numerous references of.

      Cynic
      ?
      ??


      Date Posted: Wednesday 06-Feb-2008
      Funny..how when everyone was killing Blacks...no one said much of anything, I'm not saying it's right...Im just saying shut up with the hypocritical holier than thou attitudes....whites have killed more minorities with a virus infected blanket than any minority has EVER done to whites. So how about this..about everone grow the hell up and just admit we (the human race..and like Kelli said at the bottom, mostly MALE) are stupid and vengeful. Then...after confessions have been made..resolve to make the world a better place. If not for us...then for the poor offspring we leave this miserable wretched world to.

      Casual Observer
      Mission Viejo, Orange County


      Date Posted: Tuesday 05-Feb-2008
      One last question to our friend Karl.
      I might be mistaken but the Karl if not SA it must be a strong possibility German or Holland ?
      You can be strongly related to German and if so shouldn't you be examining yourself and asking your parents why they murderd millions of Jews (facts)?

      Unfortunately I agree with one of the previous writers that you are are a SA or an import from somewhere elese waisting oxygen here in SA..........

      Jimmy SA


      Date Posted: Monday 04-Feb-2008
      To Karl
      You are obviously one of the liberalists of an extreme nature!!! Lots of our black people were given the message of Christianity and only a few have taken it on. Most of them combine Christianity with their ancestral worship and think that its ok! The majority in SA believe in the communist way of life NOT Christianity. The bible says distinctly that you cannot serve 2masters at the same time! If you are or have any Christian leanings you would understand! I seriously think that you were/are one of those who have left SA OR you still live here and aren't sure of which course you want to take for the future. The last word of your comment gives you away!!! Basta -SA thoroughbred word!!!!

      Duimpie
      KZN-SA


      Date Posted: Sunday 03-Feb-2008
      Hi Karl,
      I see from your IP address that you're not in Africa. I suspect you're anothe African American who has no idea what went on here.

      Here is some suggested reading for you:-
      Did Apartheid kill Millions of Blacks?

      S.Africa: Blacks have murdered more Whites than Whites have murdered Blacks...

      Jan Lamprecht
      Johannesburg
      South Africa


      Date Posted: Sunday 03-Feb-2008
      When you all where murdering blacks in fling,nobody,I mean nobody,lifted an eyebrow.You treat a pit bull badly.it's gonna bite ya.You should have taken the servant into the church with ya,and you would not have the problem today.educated people dont kill each & are not profound to believe in any bullship.I mean any bullshit,no matter what direction it's coming from!basta.

      Karl


      Date Posted: Saturday 02-Feb-2008
      To sojourner truth?
      Whose master race? Does this apply to you? Would you have liked this lady to have been a sibling, wife, mother or grandmother of yours? Answer these questions-then take a long hard look at the REAL truth!!! Africa is collapsing!! Without the whites there is anarchy and chaos, it has again been proven with what is going on here in SA, people like you cannot hide their heads in the sand like ostriches forever-your liberalist ilk will be one of the first to bleat/run for the hills/go across the waters when the spaghetti hits the fan!! (You probably have a foreign passport as your back door OR you are already out of this land OR have lived somewhere else and not here!!!)

      Duimpie
      KZN-SA


      Date Posted: Thursday 31-Jan-2008
      How's that "manifest destiny" working out for the master race, eh?

      sojourner truth


      Date Posted: Thursday 10-Jan-2008
      To Christine

      Since when are Iraqis and Algerians white????? Most Arabs are dark.

      Maxtor
      Atlanta


      Date Posted: Sunday 06-Jan-2008
      Dear Mark, you stupid little man.I see that you do have use of the internet"unfortunately".
      I suggest you educate yourself and go into it and read from the numerous SA news papers yourself and have a look at what the media reports daily about murders taking place.Have a look for at who they report are being murdered.
      When a white is either brutally attacked or murdered and this includes helpless children, the report will mention the names of the victims only.This is how we know they are white.
      When the same happens to a black the names are mentioned, but to spice it up for people like you they will always state it is believed to be racially motivated.If you don't understand this, it simply means they are playing the racial card as is being done in your own country and increasing, because it then justifies the killing of whites.
      Unfortunately in the USA there are people like you that are obsessed with apartheid, and as long as you can refer to it as an excuse you sleep well at night. Even if it means a 2yr child is brutally murdered or as in this case a white woman.
      PS For your information and arrogant remark about this woman, her close freinds and family do give a f@#k that she is white.
      Here in Africa we say arrogant people like you don't have grey matter between the ears but "shit"

      Jimmy SA


      Date Posted: Sunday 06-Jan-2008
      Mark,Mark you rediciously stupid little man.

      Jimmy from the real SA


      Date Posted: Thursday 27-Dec-2007
      It had everythng to do with the fact that she is a white woman in South Africa. Whites are being murdered at a disproportionately high rate to the rest of the population.

      This is not a coincidence. They are being targetted for such murderous attacks and public humiliation because they are white.

      adrianastuijt@knid.nl
      Dokkum
      the Netherlands


      Date Posted: Wednesday 26-Dec-2007
      I am sick and tired of referring to a "White woman" or whatever was murdered. It is totally irrelevent whether this woman was white, black, pink, yellow, green or a space alien. The point is that a human being (male, female, who cares?) was brutally attacked and murdered.
      Bottom line: LIFE IS CHEAP IN AFRICA.
      Its only when this philosophy changes and people are not murdered through lack of moral direction that this chaos will end. I have immigrated to and from South Africa twice, always with hope in my heart when I see the beloved African sun, but for the sake of my children I don't believe there is a future for them there.
      Yes, G-d bless Afrika - she needs all the help she can get.

      Jezebel


      Date Posted: Friday 21-Dec-2007
      To Christine:

      "where you have whites, you have civilization. Where you don't, you have chaos"

      I wouldn't describe the Japanese, South Korean, or Singaporean civilizations as chaotic ones, and they are not white. Iraq or Algeria on the other hand are basket cases and their population is white, albeit Muslim.

      What’s unfair about asking the White South Africans to leave is the fact that they built that nation only to have it taken away by thugs.

      Lars Pluss
      San Francisco CA
      USA


      Date Posted: Thursday 20-Dec-2007
      You racist doos.

      chalk
      Durban
      SA


      Date Posted: Sunday 09-Dec-2007
      Mike Wallace
      If you had any inkling of what is going on in South Africa in respect of the murder of whites you'd recognize that this is actually a genocide DISGUISED as crime of which this woman is but one victim amongst tens of thousands of, non-combatant, unarmed, civilian whites that have been murdered in South Africa under the ANC communist terrorist regime since they took over the country in 1994.
      You also intimate that apartheid somehow justifies this genocide in SA.
      I wonder how you justify the cold-blooded, torture/rape/murder of approx 35 000 innocent white civilians in 13 years of ANC misrule with the deaths in operations by the former South African security forces of approx 2000 armed combatants, activists and saboteurs between 1948 to 1994, whose purpose was to overthrow a white minority government to replace with an even smaller black minority elitist regime who have plundered the country to the nth degree and under who's misrule South African blacks are infinitely worse off and the economy collapsing as Zimbabwe's has.
      Apart from that, your comment reveals a typical USA left-wing liberal myopia and the arrogance to post comment about a country that you clearly know nothing about, on issues that you know even less about and about a component of the country's history that you probably have difficulty spelling, your frame of reference of which in total you probably gleaned from something somebody once said somewhere.
      And that makes you my friend absolutely unqualified to say anything or even have an opinion about the crime in SA.
      Lastly, it's like me saying that the shenanigans of the various minority groups in the USA which have also all, especially in recent times, resulted in some spectacular perversions and abuses of the whole race card phenomenon to not only call for the mass murder of US whites, and which have actually resulted in disproportionate black on white violent crimes, but have also falsely accused whites of a variety of bogus felonies; should be seen not only as "just Crime" but also fair but massively insufficient recompense for US history of racism in respect of the Red Indians, black slavery, Hiroshima, and Nagasaki (Pearl Harbour notwithstanding) Korea, Vietnam, The gulf war, Iraq and now Iran.
      You get my drift?

      Cynice
      ?
      ??


      Date Posted: Sunday 09-Dec-2007
      Who gives a flying f**k wherther she's white? We should look at this issue as what it really is- ie CRIME.

      And obviously, if a certain borough or suburb is famous with wealthier residents, that'll be a criminal's major attraction.And for a second I wonder why it always comes down to RACIST ATTACK..RACIST MURDER...is it the fact that the very "white south africans" have it on their minds all the time maybe?

      And maybe this should be left to South Africa...afterall, there must've been something in the past to cause all this (maybe apartheid..who knows)

      Mike Wallace
      Dallas
      USA


      Date Posted: Monday 29-Oct-2007
      Hi Christine,
      Do you have a source for that legend?

      I've never heard anything like it.

      Jan Lamprecht
      Johannesburg
      South Africa


      Date Posted: Sunday 28-Oct-2007
      Negro rule = chaos. Only segregation could maintain peaceful relations with the Whites in control. History proves that. South Africans should have fought the Americans and British who undermined their legitimate societies, now all they can do is leave and leave fast or they will be exterminated by this sub race and its Marxist rulers.

      Mick
      Memphis
      USA


      Date Posted: Saturday 20-Oct-2007
      One man arrested for double-murders of two white Pietermaritzburg women - one a crime-journalist

      Durban - A man has been arrested in connection with the brutal murder of a former crime journalist, police said on Friday.

      Inspector Joey Jeevan said the man was arrested on Wednesday and would appear in the Pietermaritzburg Magistrate's Court on Friday.

      Elaine Anderson - a former crime reporter for the Witness newspaper - was leaving church in her car last Sunday when she was confronted by two armed men in Otto's Bluff Road.

      Nothing was stolen. After shooting Mrs Anderson, the men then tried to hijack another vehicle further down the road.

      The driver of the car, Patricia Kippen had also just been to church, and the men fired two shots into her head.

      Despite being shot, Kippen, tried to drive away but drove into a ditch. Mrs Anderson had been shot twice and was declared dead at the scene.

      Kippen was rushed to hospital on a ventilator but she died shortly after arrival.
      Nothing was robbed.

      LINK:

      http://www.news24.com/News24/South_Africa/New...

      adrianastuijt@knid.nl
      Dokkum
      the Netherlands


      Date Posted: Friday 19-Oct-2007
      I think it's terrible that anyone is raped,murdered tortured or anything else as horrendous but please remember this is a HUMAN condition. White brutalized Blacks in the antebellum south...whites killed,raped and murdered Native Americans. The North Koreans do it to their own people. The Vikings were REAL big on theft..AKA looting,pillaging,ravaging....and let's not get into the awful efficiency of the Nazis. So don't make this into a race issue. If anything it is a gender issue. All of this was perpetrated by men. So you all can talk about the black race (of which I am a member) however we all have a long way to go. No...not we..you. The carriers of the mutant rage gene...also known as "XY". I'm sure you will all brush me off saying that I am a feminist or some other claptrap, but I am done and have said my piece...and have made peace with my observations. I am striving individually to make the world better..by acknowledging the fact that my human BROTHERS and SISTERS are flawed. All of them. Not just the "Darkies".

      Kelli
      Orange County, CA
      USA


      Date Posted: Friday 19-Oct-2007
      Rope? Naah, look much better bleeding out from a bayonet wound.

      Mike
      Greensboro
      USA


      Date Posted: Friday 19-Oct-2007
      How many more white men women children and babies have to be raped tortured and murdered! please all you white South Africans leave South Africa and migrate to Australia and New Zealand which are the two countries that most South Africans are now migrating to.

      Or better yet many of you can migrate to Singapore, Singapore will be an absoloute paradise for you white South Africans, it's the safest cleanest and most orderly country in the world, crime there is very low and is virtually non existent.

      I fear and hurt for all the good decent people still living in South Africa and my heart and sympathy goes out mostly to you white South Africans, please get out while you still can if not migrate to the Western Cape and start up and form your white homeland, from what iv'e heard in the next 5 years 80 percent of the white population left in South Africa will migrate to the Western Cape.

      John
      Perth
      Australia


      Date Posted: Friday 19-Oct-2007
      Sad and regretable, yes...but I think anyone who's been paying attention should have realized quite a few years back that white people need to get out of Africa. We're not wanted there, and regardless of what the Beors have done for Africa...the reality is that if you're white and in Africa...you may be gang raped and murdered.

      If whites are smart, the'll leave. It's not fair, but it's reality.

      Maybe if we're lucky, blacks will return the favor and leave the rest of the world to return to Africa. I think it would be to everyone's benefit that blacks and whites segregate themselves from one another.

      Charles Widden
      Orange County
      USA


      Date Posted: Friday 19-Oct-2007
      I am deeply saddened and hurt about the assault and murder of the inocent woman reported in this article. The criminals should be punished without prejudice. I only hate that once a crime such as this one and the thousands of others that happened all over the world (Western, Communist etc.)causes more hatred and racism.

      As we continue this pattern how can we as a people survive in the ever changing world. We are in the begining of the 21st Century and still have the same problems as in ancient times. I sincerely hope her family are in good hands and she is resting peacefully in another world because our world is damned...

      God Bless and forgive us all...

      Rodney D.
      Karlsruhe
      Germany


      Date Posted: Thursday 18-Oct-2007
      I have long felt sympathetic to whites in SA. Where I live in Australia there are a lot of your people who have settled here and live in peace. Some arrived unused to the non-availability of Domestic servants, but soon got over it. I agree with the writer here who advocates the creation of a White only state in SA. You people must find the will to bring this about because after Mandella and Tutu give up the ghost you are in trouble. I pity your children if you don't do this.

      Australian ally
      Brisbane
      Australia


      Date Posted: Thursday 18-Oct-2007
      Why in the world would anyone want to live in such a country? Get out while you are still alive for Heaven's sake.

      Archie1954
      Vancouver
      Canada


      Date Posted: Thursday 18-Oct-2007
      Lynnwood installs anti-crime barrier after five horror-filled days of two torture-murders & a series of armed robberies by heavily armed gangs from townships about 20 km -- armed with AK47s.

      Oct 18 2007 -- LYNNWOOD, PRETORIA. Residents here have erected anti-crime barriers with 45-gal drums and started a citizen's guard unit to try and stop the violent-crime wave in the Afrikaner-dominated suburb of Pretoria.

      In the past five days alone, this one small neighbourhood has been reeling under a violent-crime wave, with two murders, an attempted murder, and armed robberies.

      Residents are especially angry because the Pretoria city council has just turned down their request to turn their neighbourhood into a gated community with armed security guards because of this crime-wave hitting this lower-middle class area.

      The residents have now erected their neatly-painted 45-gallon-drum barriers, armed by volunteer-security guards made up of residents, in spite of the municipal cops trying to physically stop them.

      "We have declared war against crime, blood will not flow in our streets again," said Dr Kevin Gasp, one of the residents.

      The residents' association is meanwhile also relaunching their rejected application for a gated community -- this time they are demanding that the High Court issue a court order allowing this in an emergency court application.

      SEE PICTURE of BARRICADE ACTION:

      LINK:
      http://www.news24.com/Beeld/Suid-Afrika/0,,3-...

      adrianastuijt@knid.nl
      Dokkum
      the Netherlands


      Date Posted: Thursday 18-Oct-2007
      by their actions, they are animals. fortunately, they are
      succeeding in killing all sympathy for them, and thus will be left to their own devices, with predictable results

      Mike
      Greensboro
      USA


      Date Posted: Thursday 18-Oct-2007
      I think it is disgusting that whites are being killed off, tortured etc. on a daily basis. As so many others have said before me, the white populace is being eradicated systematically. To re-introduce the death penalty now would just complicate matters and we would see an even larger rise in other crimes e.g bribery etc. The only way out is for the whites to band together, form a white state or for them to get out of SA. If i had resources etc. I would certainly get out! I am fed up with burglar bars security gates alarms and always having to look over my shoulder.My condolences the the Odendaal lady's family.

      Duimpie
      KZN
      SA


      Date Posted: Thursday 18-Oct-2007
      This is one of the strongest arguments for an independent white country in Southern Africa for southern African whites.
      The ongoing vitriol from the ANC terrorist regime and particularly Mblekki that consistently polarises SA society and then apportions all the blame for black ills and ANC failure, to white people is only going to result in more stealing from the whites with the incidental brutality of sexual molestation/mutilation and/or rape and murder.
      The brutalisation of white people in South Africa is never going to stop and the more black illegal aliens that pour into SA the more the dwindling white population is going to be ransacked, violated, raped and murdered and we have seen that these pieces of excrement will not even stop at white children. If they come across a white child in the course of their brain-dead robberies they will rape and/or murder that child because they know that as free-agents of the ANC Terrorist regime, they have the tacit endorsement, approval and encouragement of the ANC to eradicate whites from the face of the continent and they can do so largely with impunity.
      The death penalty is not going to work and with respect Clive, will never be re-introduced in SA ever again. The reason for this is that you first of all need a dedicated competent police force in large enough numbers to apprehend the perpetrators in the first place and you then need a dedicated, competent judicial system to prosecute, convict and sentence these stinking bastards. Neither of these will ever happen in SA again under an incompetent black terrorist criminal regime.
      At the same time this same ANC terrorist regime has made it abundantly clear that they do not want white people in SA and any white people that are there must be made to pay permanent pennance for apartheid by way of absolute marginalisation and absolute disenfranchisement to the extent of even totally eradicating white history, culture and heritage.
      Furthermore, with capital crimes of rape and murder running at 55 and 346 per day respectively this translates into 146365 capital crimes per annum. If only half of this warranted the death penalty you'd be hanging nearly 75 000 criminals per year or nearly 200 per day. Clearly out of the question
      If we had to take only the number of whites that have been murdered since 1994 and assume a successful conviction and execution of each piece of murdering scum responsible for these 35000 murders we would be looking at approximately 20 000 executions in 13 years - or 4-5 per day every day of the week, every week of every year. In either instance, can you imagine the reaction of the international bleeding hearts and nanny banger brigade?
      These figures alone leave absolujtely no doubt that violent crime against whites in SA is out of control, not by the sheer volume and scale but by how little can and is being done to prevent it.
      These are not the violent death statistics of a civilised society, these are the violent death statistics of a military conflict or ethnic cleansing agenda and that is the bottom line. Whites in SA are the targets of a black terrorist urban guerrilla genocidal war and it is never going to get better.
      As the white population dwindles from this level of violent attrition and those with the means and good sense to get out, millions more blacks from impoverished black african tin-pot dictatorships pour into SA straining the economy and resources to the limit. Killing the whites off isn't going to solve the problem either, because aside from internal tribal conflict between the "13 official" tribes there is going to be an escalating ethnic war growing between indigenous SA blacks and illegal aliens and refugees from other black countries all of them without money, resources, papers, or work. For now they are able and content to kill whites to steal from them for their most basic needs.
      Whites will never peacefully co-exist with blacks, they will always be subjected to this kind of violent criminal behaviour from blacks and the only answer is either get out or get killed. This is what the thinking was behind Apartheid. Instead of obliterating the black scum from the face of the earth, they devised a form of separate development for blacks that would keep them away from whites for the simple and now clearly apparent reason that when blacks are allowed to move freely within white communities all they do is steal kill and destroy in the most brutal manner. Why does wanting to separate your people from that constitute a crime against humanity?
      Unless whites in SA start moving towards a white independent country in Southern Africa they are doomed to continue being slaughtered like pigs in their homes, farms, businesses and behind the wheels of their cars, in front of their children, with their children, unarmed, unprotected and put to death by a piece of shit with a gun in his hand and who's only slightly less than nothing mental and emotional activity occurs in the head of his penis.
      Now what were we saying about the humanity of these most cowardly pieces of excrement?

      Cynic
      ?
      ??


      Date Posted: Thursday 18-Oct-2007
      The death penalty must be restored. Bastards like these four will look well at home at the end of a rope.

      Clive
      Maulden
      UK